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Postby Taff » 19 May 2008 18:14

All the latest updates on HMS Plymouth will be posted here.

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Postby Martin » 03 Jun 2008 20:35

From Andy Hayler 11th May

Going to Guzz.

An update in the long running challenge of securing HMS P's future in Guzz.

Thanks to Ian's tireless and relentless work another step in the right direction was achieved by him recently.

As I'm sure most people know berthing HMS Plymouth in Guzz was never going to be simply 'let go for'd and aft' in Birkenhead head South and turn left at the bottom.

You will have seen Martin's post detailing some of the concerns raised, such as, will the stern drop off if unsupported, or will the stern glands leak etc.

One of the major issues has been the dredging requirement, what type of dredging, plough / hydro, what type of berth pocket / grounding at low tide or afloat at all states of the tide, volume of material to be removed, distances to dumping ground, license to dredge, avoidance of fish spawning season etc, to say nothing of the considerable costs associated with each and every option.

However there was one issue above all others that needed resolution and agreement; were WML able to insure the vessel? Without insurance there is no business and with no business there is no HMS P in Guzz.
Well WML, aka Ian to all intents and purposes, now have in their possession a "Demands and Needs" document from the insurance brokers effectively agreeing to the ship being allowed to sit on the bottom at low tide, there are a number of other requirements like removal of all underwater projections et al.

And here is the bottom line....... it is another step in the right direction but there are plenty of other 'show stoppers' waiting in the wings.


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Meeting Held 9th October and Subsequent Actions

Postby andy hayler » 23 Oct 2008 14:49

As Taff mentioned at the AGM the material posted on this message board subsequent to June has been lost.

This post relates to the actions from 9th October 08 onwards.

At the above meeting WML attempted to get an agreed position from John Howard in respect of costs of the berth at Howards Quay.

John Howard was sceptical as to the commercial viability of the project.

It was agreed that Andy Hayler would escort John Howard on a visit to HMS Plymouth in order to convince him of the projects viability.

That visit has been scheduled for Monday 27th October
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Outcome of Visit to HMS Plymouth by John Howard

Postby andy hayler » 28 Oct 2008 22:02

On Monday 27, as arranged, John Howard, as in Howards Quay owner and potential berth for HMS Plymouth inspected the ship to confirm the viability of HMS Plymouth being a visitor attraction.

First the good news .... yes John believes it could work.

Second the bad news .. the ship is in a very poor state externally and needs massive amounts of TLC, now, if it is to survive and be in any fit state for opening to the public.

Thirdly the work that needs to be done. WML need to agree with John Howard the commercial terms and conditions for berthing HMS Plymouth.

There are many other issues that require resolution between all the parties involved and we need to move fast but I was delighted by the support shown by David Briody and Steve Hardcastle representatives of the owners in trying really hard to get HMS Plymouth back to Plymouth.

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Postby Taff » 29 Oct 2008 23:49

Here are a couple of Photo's Andy took when he was onboard



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Postby Taff » 29 Oct 2008 23:57

As you can see, she needs a lot of TLC.

If we are successful in our bid to move her to Plymouth, volunteer working parties may be required before the move.
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Postby andy hayler » 14 Nov 2008 13:33

FYI, at the moment, 14th Nov, the money required to berth the ship and the structure of the payments is not supportable by the current business plan.

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Postby sidanee » 16 Nov 2008 10:57

am up for any working party...andy if berthing etc is unsupportable by the current business plan, where does that leave us???
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Postby andy hayler » 16 Nov 2008 17:29

Change the business plan
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